IATA blasted US Dept. of Transportation's proposed passenger rights regulations, calling them "an unprecedented intervention in the business practices of airlines serving the US" and a violation of the Chicago Convention (ATW Daily News, June 3). In comments filed with DOT on Wednesday, IATA also said that the NPRM, "Enhancing Airline Passenger Protections," appears to show that DOT "is moving away from the letter and spirit of the Airline Deregulation Act…that affirmatively recognized passengers are better served by private sector competition than by public sector regulation."
According to IATA, the NPRM also "proposes to apply US laws on foreign airlines' operations on such matters as fares, reservations, contingency planning, advertising and customer service….an extraterritorial application of US law on foreign carriers that cannot be justified." Extraterritorial provisions include the requirement that airlines flying to and from the US "adopt a customer service plan complying with DOT minimum requirements," that they "incorporate their tarmac delay and customer service plan in their contract of carriage," that they "include notice of baggage fees on their website and tickets" and that they disclose flight information to passengers in a certain manner."
IATA said that based on these provisions, "it appears that foreign carriers would be required to modify operations and procedures that do not take place in the US in order to meet US regulatory requirements. For example, foreign carriers would be required to respond to customer complaints about service provided in Paris within 30 days of receiving that complaint."
IATA also criticized extending the tarmac delay provisions to non-US carriers. Noting that the majority of delays are attributable to issues such as weather and insufficient airport and airspace capacity, IATA likened the plan to "fining a bus drive for not arriving on time during summer road construction."
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IATA(a social club of world
By khawaja javaidIATA(a social club of world airlines for photo sessions) have no history of respecting passengers rights,distribution channels who pays and brings the business for airlines.If anyone can look15-20 years back regulations on airlines,DOT have been making a lot of favors to airlines.All Mega carriers (European/US) are involed in blackmarketing,unfair dirty business practices(none of them and IATA can dare to deny it).Customer service is the most hated word for Mega carriers.Mega carriers(US/European) using all GDS systems for blackmarketing.Dishonesty,greed,arrogance,incompetency is ruling the world mega carriers.
Time have come for IATA to put its house in order
What! You can't take the
By Joe FoxWhat! You can't take the heat now. I think it was a foreign carriers (Ryanair Airlines) that started the fees. Pretty much all that passengers get now days is very poor service - Like I owe the airlines something.
British airways was the
By khawaja javaidBritish airways was the first,than American airlines(Robert Crandall) and Delta airlines made final destruction of aviation business around the globe in 1995.
The next-to-last paragraph is
By The ShadowThe next-to-last paragraph is unbelievable. IATA is upset because their members should respond to customer service complaints within 30 days.
Any well-run business responds to customer complaints in far less than 30 days and doesn't need the government to make them do it. That tells you all that you need to know about how little IATA members know or care about customer satisfaction.
'Private sector competition'
By Anonymous'Private sector competition' has resulted in nothing more than a race to the bottom as far as customer service and respect is concerned.
IATA, the industry has brought this situation upon itself.
The airlines need to get in
By AnonymousThe airlines need to get in line with proper customer service for their very survival. With emerging technologies, there are too many alternatives to travel today to take your customers for granted. Every time I travel these days I am reminded of what a brutal experience it is for all but the very top tier of frequent flyers.
Regulations on safety etc
By Philip DRegulations on safety etc (which is not a DOT domain) are OK, but then ICAO ought to be used for that; does any US Government department establish rules for customer complaints or delays etc in retail stores? the railways? bus companies? why pick on airlines and why on foreign airlines many of which have to deal with regulations in their home countries any way...The DoT staffers are trying to perpetuate their existence by coming up with new and more complex rules...job security for them...
Funny how IATA is coming down
By vmFunny how IATA is coming down hard on DOT but didn't say peep when the EU rolled out its passenger bill of rights.
IATA for years have promoted
By AnonymousIATA for years have promoted deregulation and privatisation, for wrong reasons, of both airlines and airports to the detriment of the industry confirmed from the many losses made by the leading carriers of the world. Growth of Emirates is one example that the industry can draw conclusions from: government intervention and public ownership are much favoured to the unsexy privatisation and deregulation concepts advocated by the Europeans
First of all the article
By Mustafa OzalcinFirst of all the article doesn't mention who made these quotes... So we can assume it's the official line..?
Secondly, the Deregulation Act was predominantly to remove government control over fares, routes and market entry of new carriers, not passenger protection. Lastly, "vm" makes a great point above about the EU passenger rights act.
Depends on how complex it is
By AnonymousDepends on how complex it is gonna be. As far as this is to set up the minimal standards within the industry than its a move in the right direction. I dont like growing administration like this but if the things cant run properly on its own that you need to regulate them.
If I complain to airline I would expect to get a respond within 30 days even If I would post it from the Antartic. IATA being desperate about this "demanding deadline" really says something.
Anyone who disputes the fact
By IguanaDC3Anyone who disputes the fact that airlines, amongst others, have largely lost their way (w/ regards to customer care & service) is a blind fool, yes, but believing that a public sector (gov't) bureaucracy can "solve" this via the return of regulation & public sector "ownership" is foolish AND ignorant.
There's not a gov't on this Earth which does more than 2 things correctly more than 2 days in a row. To place the fate of ANYthing commercial in the hands of a public sector hack with the intellect of a wombat is just stupid.
And Javaid, you need to be quiet. If it weren't for the likes of BA and AA and DL, amongst others, there would be NO modern aviation or anything associated with it today. You can demonize the Crandalls of the world all you wish while touting what you believe to be your own "proven" expertise, but your mantras are tired & your facts are inaccurate & your bias is clearly transparent. Over the course of time, you yourself will cease to be relevant.
I do agree that just paper
By AnonymousI do agree that just paper regulation wont fix the things. If something goes wrong and the airline happens to be unhelpful, its always better to vote with your money next time.
But for case, where something went wrong and you realize that its hard even to force the company to communicate with you, its always good to have some minimal standards mentioned in the law as this gives you a certain ground when dealing with an airline.
But as said above - its not only about one deadline thing so it all depends on how well the authorities will handle that.
The U.S. has every right to
By Dave PThe U.S. has every right to impose it's laws on operators serving the U.S., including foreign carriers; the same is Iran has the right to impose it's laws within it's borders on foreigners. In the case of IATA carriers, nobody is putting a gun to their head; if they don't want to comply with U.S. law while operating into the U.S, then stay home.
The traveling public wants it
By BillThe traveling public wants it both ways: a cheap ticket and great service. Airline employee wages and benefits have suffered grievously since deregulation. How chipper would you be if YOUR wages were cut and you were expected to smile. I look forward to the day that the airlines begin (again) to charge a fair price for tickets which reflect the hard work the employees do. Then you'll get your great service .... oh, I can hear your whining then when ticket prices go up ( ... and standby, they're about to!).
IATA trying to justify its
By Mark SIATA trying to justify its existence. Stick to defining standards, and stay out of political and governmental regulatory issues.
Ok this is simple Ever see
By AnonymousOk this is simple Ever see the TV show airline. Southwest when they bump someone never gave compensation that they should have instead of getting people where there going in 4 hrs they take there sweet time next day
Why not just let the market
By DanWhy not just let the market determine who stays in business? The government(s) do not need to help me make decisions. If I choose a low cost carrier and pay the lowest fare, I have not asked for anything more than a ride to my destination. If I do not like how I was treated, I will tell as many folks as I can and next time I will fly with someone else...
Absurd - IATA should look at
By JerroldAbsurd - IATA should look at all the other countries regulations on what they force carriers to do. Let's start with fee's, taxes etc. If the airlines are forced to have policies in place to handle passenger's in a fair manner it's a shame, however - the root cause is the airlines inability or unwillingness to do so without a mandate!
The article does not list
By AnonymousThe article does not list most of DOT's proposed passenger rights rules, which aren't only capricious, they're extremely onerous, like the proposed ban of peanuts and anything that might contain peanuts on board of aircraft. I'm serious, that's one of the proposed rules. The DOT is creating more work for itself (so it can hire more bureaucrats to administer and monitor all these new, highly complex rules). I think the airlines - and the flying public - have a point pushing back at the DOT here...
A government that governs
By R B QuinnA government that governs (interferes) least, governs best!
People are critical on the
By AnonymousPeople are critical on the rule of law and government. Why judges are there, why police is there, why prosecutors are there. Let's close all the jails ,shut down courts,fire all judges, and free all the crimianls, so the crimanals can run a better society.
Wake up, have some common sense and use the brain before making comments
Anon's comments just above
By IguanaDC3Anon's comments just above are made just like I'd expect from a gov't employee, most likely. Yes, we ARE critical (of) gov't whenever/wherever it's due. We're not nixing the rule of law, however. No one herein is calling for anarchy nor is anyone drawing parallels between crime & criminals per se and the legal operation of a free market private enterprise in a capitalist society, komrade. Grow up already. And as for Bill above, dereg' -- for all of its now-obvious flaws -- has still opened up a mode of travel which was theretofore largely unavailable to the masses. Investment opp'ties and new commercial opp'ties for related industry, i.e. contractors & airport srvcs, etc etc, have since abounded. You olde guard farts were/are obstacles to progress, even if flawed. You do make a fair point about airlines needing to charge higher fares to cover costs, but you of course speak only of labor (like a good unionist, ugh) rather than OTHER similarly high costs, i.e. the aircraft themselves & other capital expenditures, not just labor. Many good folks spend a lot of hard-earned $$$ w/in an airline or ANY biz' venture long before labor per se enters the picture --- for better or worse.
Airlines do what they like.
By GMBAirlines do what they like. American Airlines (and probably others) serve meals in first class, but stopped serving special meals in first class on some of the flights that have meals. They also led the way in promoting HR policies and validating behaviors that are disgusting and socially destructive. Airlines have lost the ability to tell the difference between right and wrong, and need government intervention to nudge them back in the right direction.
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