NTSB chairman says regionals 'can't wait' on new safety regulations

US National Transportation Safety Board Chairman Deborah Hersman called on US regional airlines to "take the initiative" on safety issues by going beyond "minimum requirements," particularly regarding pilot hiring/training and pilot fatigue.

Delivering the keynote address to the Regional Airline Assn. Annual Convention in Milwaukee, Hersman said the February 2009 Colgan Air Q400 crash that killed 50 (ATWOnline, Feb. 4) was "a watershed event in that it brought into the harsh spotlight a number of issues that have been quietly plaguing the industry for decades."

She expressed concern that regional airlines are viewed as "the farm team" where pilots gain experience before moving on to mainline carriers. "I think that this is a really bad way to look at this," she told reporters following the speech. With regionals operating 53% of US domestic flights, "the regionals are the mainline," she said, adding that pilot training, commuting and fatigue policies should be consistent across the board.

She expressed skepticism that FAA adequately can enforce uniform, high-level safety standards: "We can't wait for regulations because sometimes these regulations take years or even decades to complete…I don't think FAA can always keep pace with how fast things are changing and it's up to the industry to take the bull by the horns."

The NTSB chairman was criticized for commenting at the board's hearing on the Colgan crash that "it felt like the movie ‘Groundhog Day’" because the safety issues highlighted were recurring. "I took some heat for that comment, but I stand by it," she said yesterday." These are not new problems. Pilots have been commuting for decades. Colgan knew that 70% of their pilots were commuters and 20% were commuting over 1,000 miles."

RAA President Roger Cohen said the organization is "dissecting all of the NTSB recommendations" related to the Colgan crash, adding that pilot training was a "major topic" during its board meeting at the conference this week.

Atlantic Southeast Airlines President Brad Holt said regionals have stepped up cooperation with mainline airline partners in the aftermath of the Colgan accident. "We meet regularly with our partners [Delta Air Lines and United Airlines] on our safety programs," he told ATWOnline. "The sharing of safety information has to be open and honest. We've gotten better at having scheduled meetings, usually on a monthly basis…I really do think the word just hasn't gotten out there" on regionals' increased safety efforts over the past year.

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27 May06:23

Are you kidding? Nothing is

By franki

Are you kidding? Nothing is going to change until a few more planes make smoking holes on the ground for the FAA to change the rest rules. You want to fix this problem go back to regulating aircarriers. Maybe then they might be profitable enough to raise pay and benefits in order to attract the best of the best. No those who can afford it and be mediocre at best. This is aviation an unforgiving environment that requires the best of the best. Ask Sully!

27 May06:25

Are you kidding? Nothing is

By franki

Are you kidding? Nothing is going to change until a few more planes make smoking holes on the ground for the FAA to change the rest rules. You want to fix this problem go back to regulating aircarriers. Maybe then they might be profitable enough to raise pay and benefits in order to attract the best of the best. Not those who can afford it and be mediocre at best. This is aviation an unforgiving environment that requires the best of the best. Ask Sully!

27 May08:02

And what makes Hersman think

By Anonymous

And what makes Hersman think some of these items are regionals only? The major airlines have allowed long distance commuting for longer than I can remember.

27 May08:23

Commuting was not the issue

By Anonymous

Commuting was not the issue Hersman was referring to.

27 May10:16

Commuting is a big problem

By Anonymous jack

Commuting is a big problem with all airlines and every pilot know it!
Often I have had an afternoon departure with a copilot that commuted in after waking up at 3 am, driving to the airport to catch a flight to his/her home base and then begin a long, demanding 12 hour duty day! These pilots are very fatigued from the start. I know because years ago when I thought I was a young superman, I used to do just that! A smart way to commute is arrive the night before. Many commuters have a "crash pad" to stay the night before a trip.
Yes, it is a big problem because many airlines do not pay enough to survive let alone enough to pay for an extra place to sleep. And now that displacement moves to other bases are a fact of life, commuting is time robbing and expensive, but safety should always come first. And proper rest is a big safety issue, especially now that the airlines schedule us to work 10-12 hour duty days.
Is regulation restricting commuting the solution? I have tossed that question around for years and I still can't answer the question.

27 May10:31

Commuting is not the problem.

By Anonymous

Commuting is not the problem. I commute now but have also lived in base. The most fatigued I have been is when we had small children living in an apartment, getting up with the kids in the middle of the night or hearing the neighbors at all hours of the day and night. Then an 16 hr day with no air-conditioning on the airplane, multiple legs with aircraft swaps, and a short night of rest, followed by the same the next day.

How is a commuter more fatigued than an in-base pilot with kids, neighbors, second jobs, stress in marriage, etc? How does one live in base when displacements, furloughs, etc. keep pilots and their families moving every few years (or sooner)?

It's the pilot's responsibility to report to work rested. It should be the company's responsibility to provide adequate rest opportunities (i.e.hotels).

27 May10:36

Deregulation has created the

By Did deregulation cause the Colgan crash?

Deregulation has created the appearance of success due to the "artificial" bargain airfares that we as consumers have now come to expect. Yes there are more flight frequencies and competition, as long as you live in a major city. Service to smaller cities was quickly downgraded or eliminated entirely, except for routes the goverment considers "essential" which are served only by bribing the airlines with a subsidy (guess whos paying for that? Yep more stimulous but this ones been going on for 30+ years).
Unfortunately, the only way the airlines can continue to deliver such historically low fares at a time when fuel costs have soared far beyond the most pessimistic predictions of just 5 years ago is: Cutting staff, and reducing their wages and benefits to the point where they mainly attract people who are either just out of high school or have a "real" job and work at the airline at night/weekends; defer and sometimes "forget" to do maintenance on their aircraft; and of course jam their customers into the smallest possible amount of space with no food whilst charging them extra for everything they can think of. This lead to the practice of pilots having to commute from affordable cities they live in to the cities where their job begins, and thus the inevitable march towards disasters like the Colgan crash. I truly the airline executives, FAA, ALPA and other related organizations will finally sit down together and create a meaningful solution before another tragedy kills more innocent lives.

This is better than when the industry was regulated?

27 May12:24

Legislation is already in

By Syed Mohammad Husain

Legislation is already in place but more vigilance by FAA with monetary penalties would be the order of the day in enforcing the recommendations adopted in the aftermath of the NTSB inquiries with respect to the Comac Airlines and Colgan Air disasters. In the Comac disaster, the FAA was a party also.
There should be no financial shortcomings allowed in the training flaws uncovered especially in the latter crash with a equally stricter view on pilots commuting from distant residencies or at least , the junior pilots who are in the process of still finding that blue is up. Scheduling including crew pairing should get more attention and junior first officers should get the experience of flying with all the line captains instead of sticking to one only.
What was uncovered in the inquiry, I would say doesn't happen even in financially challenged third world countries.

27 May14:31

The free market has spoken

By Anonymous

The free market has spoken and the industry has provided the level of service and safety that the consumer is willing to pay for. Do you really think that you can fly half way across the US in 6 hours or less for less money than it would take to drive the same trip over a period of three days?

27 May15:37

You get what you pay for!

By Chuck

You get what you pay for! The Feds need to quit sleeping with the CEO's. These minor monetary fines aren't gonna do anything to help. They need to focus on pilots and quality of life just as much as maintenance.

27 May23:21

I have been in maintenance

By Anonymous

I have been in maintenance since 1972 and have seen the industry change drastically. With the continued pressure to reduce costs it seems the first thing to go is the workers wages. With this you get mediocrity at best. The pilot group tends to feed on the young with starting first officers making sub poverty wages while the high time pilots are upwards of 100k. How whould a new pilot be able to afford any better situation? Personally I havent had a pay increase for the last (5) five years. How am I suppose to keep up with the increased costs that have occured during this period?

28 May01:34

Once heard in the crew

By Proflig8tor

Once heard in the crew lounge, "this job ain't worth commuting for," to which someone else replied "well, it sure as heck aint worth moving for." Not only is compensation an issue, but airlines now move their crews so frequently that it is impossible to keep moving from one city to another to keep up. The contracts negotiated by senior pilots by design ignore the moving packages needed by junior pilots.

28 May03:10

Fatigue and unacceptably low

By Anonymous

Fatigue and unacceptably low salaries are major, major safety issues, do doubt. Another issue that has received inadequate attention since the Colgan accident and before, is the marginal pilot training provided by the regional airlines. With only a few exceptions, management continues to view the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR's) as the maximum training standards and not the minimum standards as is intended by the FAA. The training I experienced at the regional level can only be described as awful.

The FAA is raising the minimum number of flight hours required to sit in a Part 121 airplane as a result of the Colgan accident (which is illogical considering the details of the accident). Why isn't the FAA requiring higher training quality at the regional airline level.

My experience as a pilot at two different regional airlines and personal family health issues (I lost my wife to cancer and became a single parent as a result) prompted me to seek better employment opportunites outside the airlines and I'm happy to report, I did in fact find and accept a better opportunity. I'm well educated and a solid performer. I refused to tolerate what I saw at the regional level of the airline industry, especially the poor quality of training.

01 Jun05:05

These flight and duty time

By Anonymous

These flight and duty time rules could have been changed with the Notice of Proposed Rule Making issued in the mid-nineties. ALPA just didn't have the desire to assert enough political pressure to get it done, because they didn't give a rip about anyone other than their main-line carriers who all had collective bargaining agreements that superseded the proposed regulations.

Unfortunately, the union whose mantra is "one level of safety" is really a hypocritical farce, existing primarily to cater to the pilots of the larger carriers. ALPA National would prefer to save its political currency for things that benefit their "important" members--not the bottom-feeder regionals, commuters or cargo pilots.

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