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Analysis - Sleepless in Seattle

Boeing, FAA must balance 787-design review from public relations high wire

  What started as one of Boeing’s most difficult weeks—beginning with a fire and ending with a full-scale safety review of the 787’s design and production—rapidly turned into a public relations nightmare the following week when two airlines grounded their 787 fleets and images of a Dreamliner with emergency chutes deployed streamed over television and computer screens ...

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TechGuru
on Mar 21, 2013

I cannot but agree with you 100% in what you have written. I also agree that LaHood made a big PR blunder in allowing Conner to be even in the same room, when he made the announcement.
That is history. But for a moment place ourselves in Boeing's boots. You are like a cornered animal, with everyone who has some knowledge of aviation firing arrows. You know very well that if you do not break out soon, you will die in that corner.
So Boeing is hoping that their partner in crime (I know a bit harsh word), FAA, will throw a life line to come out of this mess. Which they have done in some ways.
I was very skeptical about Lithium battery even before this storm hit Boeing. (I was very close to the location of the UPS 747 accident, the memories of which will remain etched in me).
Boeing saved 50 lbs, but now has to make a 150 lb box to save the aircraft in case it misbehaved. So what have they gained. Only a very damaged reputation for the aircraft and the company.
Not only Boeing went on LI route without a plan B, they built their electrical architecture around a few outstanding characteristics of this battery. Now they are snookered. It is very clear from Sinnet's words, there is no way they can go back to Ni-Cad without redesigning the entire electrical system around it. This could take a year at least.
I hope for two things to happen to see this aircraft fly safely.
1. The proposed design review should be taken out of FAA hands and placed in a separate body instituted by Congress. That way if the design review finds no flaws, the travelling public will be reassured more. Now in the eyes of the travelling public, Boeing and FAA are suspects together, as you have also implied.
2. For B787-9 and -10, Boeing should give the Ni-Cad option to customers, even if it means a delay of 1 year.
If these steps are not taken, I am afraid, another incident in the battery, even if well contained, will mean hundreds of cancelled orders for the Dreamliner.

Night Watchman
on Mar 21, 2013

Many thanks to KAREN WALKER and TechGuru, and to many more besides, who made excellent contributions to the debate on this topic in the earlier (though still recent) epoch of ATWOnline.

Intellectual honesty prevents one from even being tempted to disagree with the above writings.

The problem is that Civil Aviation needs the success of this B787 programme !

Remember the exchanges , including those with Froggy ?

You, TechGuru, have written “Not only Boeing went on LI route without a plan B, they built their electrical architecture around a few outstanding characteristics of this battery. Now they are snookered. It is very clear from Sinnet's words, there is no way they can go back to Ni-Cad without redesigning the entire electrical system around it. This could take a year at least."
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I wrote more or less the same thing, without any “connivance” between us (impossible, for obvious reasons ! ). I even went as far as saying, or implying, that it was as if Boeing had built the whole “more-electric aircraft” around the electrical architecture, itself an emanation of the fundamental Li-ion battery concept !
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You have the technical competencies ; I do not.

I have to lean on what analytical skills I may have, and trust (or not ! ) in what I read from visibly expert and experienced people. Oh, and of course, like many, I am severely handicapped by not holding a professional qualification or diploma in “Batteries and / or Architecture" !

Though one can understand the need for so much self-inspection & self-assessment, and the logic of delegation to appropriate “designated authorities”, I do feel disappointment at the apparent lack of FAA independence that all this has engendered and made visible.

Trust évaporates to give ground to scepticism, and then to distrust !

And, in the circumstances, that is not much good either.

That the aircraft resume test-flights is both understandable, and imperative. That there must be the most rigorous testing, under the strictest supervision of truly knowledgeable, experienced experts of incontestable independence, is self-evident.

One aspect is how to achieve all that. Another is how to convince the public, and the probable, future paying passengers that there has been the essential ingredient of independence, .... in order for THEM (the BEHOLDERS ! ) to have full confidence !

Obviously, ... there are many, many more questions, too !

TechGuru
on Mar 22, 2013

Strange stories about this battery appear now. Boeing did not do the tests that they themselves had proposed as necessary. They are doing these tests now. following link to a sister publication for the full story. Stranger than fiction ?

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_03_18_2013_...

Night Watchman
on Mar 22, 2013

Thanks TechGuru.

Yes. This was mentioned, and, I believe, even included in one article upon which we have commented.

But we probably decided to ignore it, to avoid highlighting Boeing's apparent incoherence & / or inconsistency !

I know that that was what I felt !

The aim was NOT to put the boot in on Boeing, already down on one knee !

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