
Ryanair is contemplating an order of up to 300 aircraft from either Boeing or Airbus, CEO Michael O’Leary told the Financial Times. The LCC late last year walked away from the negotiating table with Boeing after it was unable to agree on a follow-up order for 200 737s for delivery in 2013-16, and decided to use the freed-up cash to award shareholders with €500 million ($637.5 million) in dividends. The dividends, its first since going public in 1997, will be paid out next month.
“All other things being equal, if we’re still generating this amount of cash and we haven’t found any acquisition or aircraft acquisition for it, then we would certainly consider a second dividend by about the end of 2013,” O’Leary said. “But if I was a shareholder I wouldn’t be banking on that yet.”
He added that he saw no airline on the market worth buying, yet there is still the option of purchasing “200 to 300” aircraft from either Boeing or Airbus, he told FT. Ryanair had informed both manufacturers in early summer about the possible order if suitable prices and terms were offered, he noted, though there were no negotiations at present. According to Dow Jones, Airbus has refused to engage in talks with Ryanair concerning the order.
O'Leary also confirmed earlier statements to Bloomberg Businessweek that he is seeking permission from aviation authorities to use only one pilot on the shortest flights. “It would save the entire industry a fortune. In 25 years with [more than] about 10 million flights, we've had one pilot who suffered a heart attack in flight and he landed the plane,” he reasoned. “Really, you only need one pilot. Let's take out the second pilot. Let the bloody computer fly it.”
Separately, Ryanair said the Commercial Court of Barcelona confirmed it is entitled under the Spanish Constitution to exclusively distribute its low fares through its own website, and thus will not accept tickets sold through the Spanish screenscraper website Atrapalo. The latter brought the case to court. “This Spanish court victory is yet another milestone win for Ryanair after similar court wins against other screenscrapers in Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands and the UK,” it commented.
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If Ryanair gets permission to
By TBIf Ryanair gets permission to fly with on pilot, I will never fly with them again.
Hey, TB. How many bus
By JimboHey, TB. How many bus drivers on the buses in your area? How many thousands upon thousands of cars do you pass on the road every day, that have only one driver in them?
I like this idea of one pilot. Shows innovative thinking and cojones.
THe idea of one pilot
By AnonymousTHe idea of one pilot demonstrates a complete disregard for common sense. I may pass hundreds or perhaps a thousand cars on the road every day but the consequence of my death at the wheel are far less severe than the death of the pilot. Of course many have no common sense so I suspect Ryanair will have no problem filling the plane.
Hey "Jimbo"...in case you
By ObserverHey "Jimbo"...in case you haven't noticed, you can't pull over and tend to a crisis in the cockpit at FL350. 1 pilot up in flightdeck is absolutey ridiculous.
O'Leary needs to put the crack pipe down...jeezus...
What an asinine idea from yet
By JorodeWhat an asinine idea from yet another uninformed know-it-all. The computers do not fly it aircraft, air traffic controlers do not fly the aircraft and thank God neither do airline execu-thieves! Pilots fly the aircraft, and it takes two to do it safely.
Boeing called O'Leary's bluff
By JHBoeing called O'Leary's bluff on pricing last year (after all, this isn't Brand A) and now he is headed back to the table with a larger carrot to re-establish the pecking order. Bully for him.
The mere fact that you are
By P KennedyThe mere fact that you are talking about this plays into MOL
hands. Just ignore all this rubbish and he might (hopefully) go away
The guy likes hungry vendors.
By awestThe guy likes hungry vendors. You would think he'd be bright enough to bring in Bombardier "C" and Embraer 195 to start the discussions.
Unfortunately, as long as the
By 747foreverUnfortunately, as long as the "cheapest price possible" mentality exists, this airline will never go away. The idea of one pilot flying a plane is absolutely spine-chilling - I'm not a pilot, but even I understand that in an abnormal situation it can get pretty busy up there. Mr. O'Leary has, once again demonstrated his contempt for his customers, and his total disregard for even the most basic comforts for them.
His job is not to comfort
By MartinHis job is not to comfort passengers, his job is to cut costs and make money. IT IS A LCC... He will try anything to do so, the question is if he can get away with it!
He might not convince authorities to let him fly with only 1 pilot, but his innovative ideas (some good, some bad) are what made Ryanair what it is now.
"The Advanced 737 Product
By PaulaK"The Advanced 737 Product Development team is clearly a lot farther along than many give it credit for and there is a very big chance that Ryanair, not Southwest Airlines will make a splash first for the 737X.
Critically, airlines seeing a lack of Boeing movement to follow suit will further reinforce the view that doing nothing has greater chances of the 737X being realised, leapfrogging Airbus by a wide margin and it is clear from the remarks made by CFO James Bell that customers aren’t as keen on the “new engine/old airframe” combination."
Source:
http://www.fleetbuzzeditorial.com/2010/09/09/737x
Not sure how much of this is accurate, but it would make sense that Ryanair is back in the mood/game for new jets.
What would be interesting is if MOL pushed for a single pilot type certification for 60 min routes on any new narrow body. I still think, as I suspect many do, he is way out on a limb on that score!
Let the bloody computer fly
By AnonymousLet the bloody computer fly it. How many bus drivers on the buses in your area?
Let's see, if you miss the exit you don't hit a mountain at 250 kts.
One Pilot. well i am for it,
By airlinerOne Pilot.
well i am for it, why nut if enough emergency points will be implaced. i myself flew on a 737 500 froma destination in asia to another. during take of and landing a flight steward sat up front to feed him some data otherwise non of us felt unsafe, we had to decide eiter one up front or overnight stay I am for it any my friend O larry will go for it
imagine they will be able to sell one first class seat,,,,,
Next step Michael would be no
By AnonymousNext step Michael would be no pilot at all.... let's have passengers flown by megadrone.....!!!
An how much more free
By GPAn how much more free publicity has Ryanir got from this? To O'Leary all publicity is good publicity. Long may he keep spouting, this industry takes itself far to seriously. Like Spirit with the bag charge, if you do not like the proposition pay more and fly with someone else.
One Pilot: if you think of a
By JHOne Pilot: if you think of a plane as meerly a bus to move people from here to there, you also think you need only one driver like the muni buses in any major city and in any minor town. the airports' trains all run without anyone at the controls of the actual vehicle.
or if you think the discussion of a one pilot flight deck will keep distracted the many civil aviation authorities you need to deal with to open up all the routes required to keep busy your 300 new aircraft.
Saving a fortune and maybe
By S.Liedberg/pilotSaving a fortune and maybe killing a couple of hundreds of passengers, if bad happens! This shows a complete contempt for the paying passengers. 60 mins flight; rubbish! If you drive 50m (US) to the baker, you MUST have your seatbelt ON ! It has nothing to do with short leg, ANY leg or drive taking off, 2 pilots and belts ON ! Computers have to be fed and when bad happens, I can ashure you, that one pilot and a "bloody" computer is NOT enough !
Mr O´Leary is full of ideas, however this one he probably had in a bad dream.
Air transport aircraft are
By sevenfourpilotAir transport aircraft are certified by the manufacturer for two pilots. There are controls that cant be reached from one side without having to leave the seat, the view is limited etc etc he knows this very well, so just another publicicty stunt/ with a wink to the shareholders - not worth to debate.
Pretty sure it was actually
By EdPretty sure it was actually the manufacturers who walked away fromthe negotiations table. Wish this jerk would leave us all alone!
Task sharing, preventing
By FoxCharlieTask sharing, preventing errors of judgement and of flying techniques, increasing situational awareness, standing against violations of rules. Those are some of the reasons why there will aways be two pilots up there on commercial flights. The technology is already there, but no machine can replace humans when it comes to understanding the enviroment and decision making.
Two decades ago there were
By MPTwo decades ago there were three officers in the flight deck. There were at least four officers on ship's decks. Nowadays there are two officers on a flight deck, and one officer and his computers on a ship's deck. The idea of 1 pilot on a flight deck is not as crazy as it looks. The senior flight attendant could be trained for emergency situations in cockpit. That certainly reduces the cost. On the other hand many co-pilots usually trade most of their wages for flying hours. Would having one cockpit Officer make that much of an economic sense? I am not sure.
I say let OTTO Pilot fly the
By IguanaDC3I say let OTTO Pilot fly the thing solo. Remember him, from the original "Airplane" comedy film years ago?! LOL ! Just blow him (up) & let 'em fly, baby! ;-)
300 Aircraft?? He must be
By Anonymous300 Aircraft?? He must be thinking UAVs!
I think its very likely that
By AnonymousI think its very likely that aviation will go to an automatic cockpit at some point, like a drone. I think the interm step of having one pilot will be skipped.
Does the public realize this
By NotEverFlyingRyanairDoes the public realize this is the attitude MOL has regarding ALL aspects of safety? This might sound like comedy, but it is no laughing matter.
I don´t care if the flight is 10 minutes long, I would love to see a single pilot handle a 737 engine failure at v1 - fly, navigate, communicate, and then turn back around for a safe landing - all by himself. Challenging enough for 2, let alone for 1 pilot.
the rich get richer and the
By Anonymousthe rich get richer and the poor get poorer
Flying an airplane with one
By AnonymousFlying an airplane with one pilot is so RIDICULOUS, that it's not even worth spending amy reasonable time in commenting.
How many buses have fallen on
By R DayHow many buses have fallen on your head? All safety systems have backups which should include the most important, the pilot.
I am a senior Captain, an
By JetsetI am a senior Captain, an instuctor at that, and I don't mind saying how many times my junior saved the day. Flying involves many split second decisions. We don't always get it right. A consensus on the flight deck (synergy) is what often saves the day.
Darwin would enjoy watching a
By Richard in PortsmouthDarwin would enjoy watching a plane load of tourists plummet to their deaths (the single pilot slumped over on the flight deck). If the public wants cheap seats, let them risk the consequences. Just put a warning label next to the jetway for those who don't know what they're about to step on to.
Because the manufactures
By sKoraBecause the manufactures never designed current aircraft to be single pilot, you won't see it with the current commercial fleet. But to be so bold to say never, shows lack of understanding on how the world works. Big money gets what big money wants. If the airlines want an aircraft thats single pilot rated (like the Citation I/II SP,) they will get it. The unions, who have a big money lobby also, will keep at least one pilot in the aircraft to start, but who knows about further down the road. The military is already using UAVs and once the tech is tried, tested, and measured a success, its only a mater of time before it hits commercial aircraft. You'll have Central Flight Centers that monitor and react whenever something goes wrong. Having a dedicated "Oh crap" pilot might actually be safer if that's what they train for day in and day out.
Jimbo, Airplanes can't just
By AnonymousJimbo,
Airplanes can't just pull over to the shoulder like a bus or car. There are may instences where pilots have been unable to perform there duty, and the other has taken over. Single pilot operations in large aircraft is unwise.
I agree with TB I wont fly with them.
I'LL stop flying them if they
By IguanaDC3I'LL stop flying them if they blend the worst of both worlds, the result being a unipiloted Airbus. Y'all might as well just write out your last will & testament right now, & name your next of kin.
The one pilot idea is just
By AnonymousThe one pilot idea is just PR, like the toilets... The aircraft is manufactured for 2 pilots and is certified as such. Not even MOL can change this.
Remember MOL doesn't pay for marketing, he generates it through his own avenues.
why not use the FO as an FA
By Aaron Chandlerwhy not use the FO as an FA after TO and before landing? Get the gear up then go serve drinks? Or he could sell tickets for the lav ...
How many of them do you find
By GrgartHow many of them do you find in the air? Have you ever seen commercial plane landing without a pilot?
Would you like to be on that plane for half of the price?
Think of how much money he
By AnonymousThink of how much money he could charge for that empty seat on the flight deck...
Dude, learn how to write
By ScumbyDude, learn how to write before you try and make a statement. Your grammer is terrible.
I wonder where he wants to
By ZKI wonder where he wants to take 300 new aircraft.His plans change like the wind! Really weird.....i wonder how he can be so successful! I haven't flown Ryanair for 2 years because it was soooo expensive most of the time i wanted to fly.
No-one seems to be listing
By AnonymousNo-one seems to be listing the reasons that it is often times unsafe to have TWO pilots in the cockpit during an emergency. There can be confusion, disagreement and/or clash of personality which can lead to reduced performance or 'freeze' during moments of crisis. Since the captain can over-rule the first officer, today is a bad version of one-man band anyhow. If you improve the computer further and take workload off the human element, take out the potential for confusion or conflict with dual crew and actually you could have a SAFER environment.
MOL is committed to safety. He has often said he never compromises on that side of the business as he understands more than anyone that the complete failure of Ryanair could come about with any (serious) accident.
or perhaps he has no
By indoor perhaps he has no intention of buying these planes. maybe the point is to talk up the dividends and bring a rise in the share price?
just a theory. cos he seems smart enuf to think about the C-series himself.
but if the computer can fly
By indobut if the computer can fly the plane, then let's get rid of BOTH the pilots?!
Mr O'Leary is a genius at
By AnonymousMr O'Leary is a genius at manipulating the media and deceiving his shareholders...however if he is seriously considering 1 pilot ops Ryanair should have their operating licence revoked permanently.
With regard to Ryanairs profitiability..it is simply unsustainable to operate long term with the prices he offers and once he has eliminated the competition- passenger choice and basic customer service will undoubtedly be severely compromised.
Its also only a matter of time before Ryanair have a major incident as a result of O'Leary's cavalier attitude to safety.The only reason it is so safe in modern times is due to a very wise system of learning from operational problems which Ryanair are actively seeking to dismantle. The line between genius and insanity is very thin and Mr O'Leary often seems to be on the wrong side which is a great shame...
Once upon a time it used to
By red5Once upon a time it used to take four engines to cross an ocean , now the mighty twins have proven their reliability and the death of the 4 engine aircraft has been sealed (a340). So the idea of having only one pilot in the future should not seem so far fetched. As stated earlier the air force is now using UAV's and one this is proven, this technology will transfer and over time we will see attitudes change. Or put another way JFK/LHR 2 pilots $1000 JFK/LHR 1 pilot $500. We have seen the growth of the LCC's and people or always after the cheapest ticket so ultimately the consumer will decide in the future.
Re one pilot, the Australian
By CubJ3Re one pilot, the Australian transportation board is now confirming that QF 32 survived only because there were, strictly because of dumb luck, five cockpit crew instead of the usual three.
Re 300 planes, I think MOL senses that both B and AB are in the mood to lower prices because of the CSeries types that are on the way, AB needs a solid launch customer for the A320 NEO, and B needs to keep the 737NG/incrementally Improved selling until it delivers a clean sheet design. B must have been discounting the 737s to get the huge orders they've gotten this year, and AB is probably discounting the A320 to gset it back up to its old mkt share,
In any case, MOL is face with the same uncertainties as every other customer for these narrow bodies: His decision depends on whether B decides to deliver a good clean sheet replacement for the 737 by 2020, and its production rate will be for the first five years or so. If that rate increases up to 550-600/year by 2025 (AB and B are talking right now about producing their current planes at these rates), then he will continure to go with the 737 because it will be cheaper than the NEOs and B's new plane will obsolete them. If their are no answers now, orr if MOL and others simply to do not trust any prediction of delivery date and prodution rate for the clean sheeter B may make, amy , then perhaps MOL goes with the NEO. He has said he will consider adding an aircraft type. He may however be caught in a box of Boeing's making: If buys NEOs big that will motivate B to go clean sheet by 2020, thus negating the NEO advantages.
Every one is forgetting about
By Harry SchluderbergEvery one is forgetting about the pilots unions and flight attendant unions. If one pilot and a stand by flight attendant was a serious proposal the unions would be puking all over themselves. What to do about seniority, pay scales for both single pilot and flight attendant, and on and on? And also consider the different countries involved. If the europeans approved and the FAA didn't what then? Not to worry my friends we won't see this happen in our life times.
Don't be stupid. This is an
By COcaptain764Don't be stupid. This is an aircraft, not a car or a bus. What if some thing was to happen to the pilot, who would fly? Everybody can drive, but only a handfew can fly an A/C.
Well, there will ever come a
By AnonymousWell, there will ever come a day, not even one million years from now, that there will be just one pilot in the cockpit of an airliner.
And since Ryanair wants to exapnd, then why not do so more EFFICIENTLY by flying larger planes? And no matter what you may think, there simply isn't an unlimited amount of air space for airliners.
One pilot should be
By AnonymousOne pilot should be introduced for short-segment, small, modern, well-equipped aircraft, with the following condition:
Automated emergency landing controls, and at least one cabin member--not a full pilot--trained to execute or monitor a partially automated emergency landing, to communicate with ATC, and the ability to do limited piloting to choose the proper airport and runway for the partially automated landing.
MANY, MANY, MANY various
By Anja GenselMANY, MANY, MANY various incidents have had a safe outcome if only because of the duo flightdeck crew system. It is absurd to abandon such a crucial safety aspect of commercial airliner operation simply to put more money in to the hands of a few shareholders.
I love you O'Leary for your bold and innovative ideas that you have brought to the industry, but this is NOT a good one! Let this one go please!
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