Qantas pilot recalls A380 engine incident to RAes

Qantas A380. Photo: By Rob Finlayson.

In an interview with the Royal Aeronautical Society, one of the five pilots aboard the Qantas Airbus A380 that suffered an uncontained engine failure after take-off from Singapore Nov. 4 gave insight into the handling of the emergency on that “extraordinary day” (ATW Daily News, Dec. 6). The Australian Transport Safety Bureau has credited the Qantas crew with saving the aircraft and all on board.

Qantas Senior Check Capt. David Evans, who was training Route Check Capt. Harry Wubben on the flight deck of QF32, told the RAes in an interview released Dec. 8 that there “were 43 ECAM messages in the first 60 seconds after the explosion and probably another 10 after that. “It was nearly a 2-hr. process to go through those items and action each one or not action them depending on circumstances. It was getting very confusing with the avalanche of messages," Evans said.

Once aware of the damage to the wing, with fuel streaming out, Evans said the crew elected not to initiate further fuel transfer in response to a number of the ECAM messages. “We elected not to open cross-feed valves and try and transfer fuel in a wing that had obvious damage. We were getting messages about imbalance, losing fuel out of one side and not the other. And those messages were some of the ECAM messages that we didn’t follow. We were very concerned about the damage to the galleries, the forward and aft transfer galleries, whether they were intact, whether we should be transferring fuel. We ended up with quite a significant imbalance between the two—nearly 10 tonnes of fuel.”

Giving insight into the complexity of the problems, Evans told the RAes, “Subsequent to the hydraulic system we lost some braking. The wing brakes went into what they call the emergency system —‘accumulator only’—this gives about three or four applications before the accumulator runs out of brake energy. Also the anti-skid on the wing gear. Now, with the antiskid being unserviceable on the wing gear, it’s very important to have the airplane nose gear down that limits the braking on the wing gear to 1,000 psi. If you have lift and not all the weight on the wing gear, you run the risk of locking the brakes up and bursting tires,” he said.

In another complication, Evans recounted to the RAes that the computer that calculates the landing speed spat out the problem saying it was unable to calculate that many failures. “So we then looked at them in more detail and rejected ones that we considered minor. After we’d eliminated about three or four items, the computer happily made a calculation and it gave us a touchdown speed of about 165 kt. and showed us about 130 m. of surplus runway—so it basically said we could stop on the runway.” With the loss of the leading-edge slats and the overweight position, the approach speed was 35 kt. above normal,” he said in the RAes interview.

Underscoring the severity of the situation, Evans told the RAes that the airline has since tried to “recreate it in the simulator and we can’t! I think it was just such an extraordinary day.”

Discuss this news 25

12 Dec20:49

an extraordinary event that

By Peter Marosszeky

an extraordinary event that was handles extremely well.

12 Dec21:09

Why does the Aircraft

By anonymous

Why does the Aircraft Establishment have to be 'royal' ?????

12 Dec21:13

Because everything in the

By anonymous

Because everything in the little kingdom is nauseating tosh royal.

12 Dec21:21

A Singapore Airlines crew

By anonymous

A Singapore Airlines crew refused to fly an A380 ( 9V-SKG ) due to depart from Heathrow at 8.30am (AEDT) for Singapore after oil was found in one of it's turbines.

12 Dec21:22

Another Oil Leak. Some T900

By anonymous

Another Oil Leak.

Some T900 series engines have oil sediment in the high pressure (HP)/intermediate pressure (IP) turbine, a Qantas spokesman says. The oil sediment (coking) was found after inspections required by an European Aviation Safety Agency airworthiness directive issued on 22 November. This directive required inspecting the air buffer cavity and "focusing on the oil service tubes within the HP/IP structure".
Rolls-Royce did not respond to requests for comment on the oil leaks found in Qantas' engines.

12 Dec21:25

RR should stop making engines

By anonymous

RR should stop making engines otherwise there is the likely potential for a mass slaughter of lives in a plane crash.

12 Dec21:28

Sequence of events drawn from

By Tom

Sequence of events drawn from the recorded data:

0156:47
Airborne at Changi Airport
Take-off engine thrust 72%

0200:22
No 2 engine oil temperature and pressure values begin to diverge from the recorded values for the other engines
Oil temperature increasing
Oil pressure decreasing
Altitude 5,330 ft
Climb engine thrust 87%

So the engine blew it's guts at only 87% thrust.

13 Dec00:04

Hundreds and hundreds of

By Wryneck

Hundreds and hundreds of planes powered by RR engines safely fly thousands of routes every day and have done so for decades.

13 Dec02:22

RR should not be blamed for

By Bob Musee

RR should not be blamed for this incident whole sale. We should thank God that the Flight Crew were alert andthat they safely brought the aircraft down . All cocerned should investigate the Engine failure without prejudise, noting the cousin/brother engines continued functioning.That's why redudancy works.

13 Dec02:58

Sounds like an oil leak to

By David Lamb

Sounds like an oil leak to me...

The fact that the pilots have not been able to reproduce this in the simulator is another example of just how bad that situation was and the disaster that could have been. The pilots who fly these magnificent machines are trained to fly them when the break (and this one broke bad) and get it on the ground safely. Again, bravo to the pilots, all five of them!

13 Dec03:46

Once again, effective CRM and

By Capt C. D. Caceres

Once again, effective CRM and NTS training paid off! Congratulations to this crew for thier excellent performance.

13 Dec04:37

Hats off to the flight deck

By ray

Hats off to the flight deck crew (and also the cabin crew) of QF032. I can imagine that most of us in the aviation industry are proud of your accomplishment. Such stories like these makes one proud to be a member of the airline industry no matter what design or colour the rudder may have. My compliments.

13 Dec05:09

It makes you wonder if there

By Chris Reed

It makes you wonder if there hadn't been five crew whether a two man crew could have handled the workload in the same way and the ending would have been different.

13 Dec07:50

Completely agree with Ray and

By Janos

Completely agree with Ray and Capt C. D. Caceres: congratulations to the crew (cabin crew included).

13 Dec13:34

RR engines have more problems

By Tom

RR engines have more problems than an off centered bore in the stub end of an oil pipe. Premature spline wear on the end of the IPT drive shaft is another serious issue.

13 Dec13:37

RR have more serious issues

By RF

RR have more serious issues with Trent engines.
Premature wear on splines on the end of the IPT shaft is bad.

13 Dec13:43

Just imagine if there had

By Anonymous

Just imagine if there had only three crewmembers in the nose of that A380 trying to work their way through all those ECAM messages, the aircraft trim going into an uncontrollable CG state and the aircraft crashing.
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13 Dec13:51

Pilots look into the scope to

By Ted

Pilots look into the scope to try and solve the problem.

Flight Engineers look at the scope to see which end of the scope the pilots are looking into.

13 Dec18:00

I hear that RR are seriously

By Ralph

I hear that RR are seriously thinking of dropping the three spool design in favor of two spools.

13 Dec19:49

Replace the Trent 900 engines

By George S Snihurowycz

Replace the Trent 900 engines with EA engines in the 2 & 3 positions. After all the embilical cord, mounting hardware, FADEC Conrtol are in place. This will give Rolls the additional/necessary time to correct the fault once & for all. We all need 100% confidence in the planes we ply. There is no compromise ! The US built engines will deliver. Rolls should also recheck the Trent 1000 models for any uncovered future faults. I know there is this matter of pride for Rolls, but OUR safety is more important than their pride ! The US built engines WILL NOT disappoint !!

13 Dec21:14

A potential disaster

By Richard

A potential disaster alleviated by the presence of more crew than normal. Certainly makes me wish I'd never fly another A380 powered by RR until they are less arrogant and tell the truth about this incident.

13 Dec21:18

Then what happens if one of

By Tom

Then what happens if one of the outboard Trents (1 or 4)blows it's guts and takes out an EA inbd. (2 or 3) engine. Then there is zilch for power on one wing. I'd feel much safer if all four were EAs.

18 Dec00:13

I think you'll find that EA

By Anonymous

I think you'll find that EA while not having a disc leave the engine have had their fair share of problems. It is not possible to mix and match engines (2+2), the aeroplane will not allow it. Changing engine types it not a simple unbolt and rebolt type procedure.

29 Dec21:41

Although I am retired, this

By Captain Frederick J. Pack NWA

Although I am retired, this incident has been followed closely (not only by me but) by the Air Safety personnel of many airlines. It appears that there was some great CRM going on. Without the extra eyes and ears in the cockpit, the outcome might have been different. Bravo and keep the "Blue Side Up" Qantas professionals... We all never stop learning...

12 Jan17:25

i was on the plane on this

By adrian freer

i was on the plane on this day and would like to congratulate all the crew on board the plane .they were truly remarkable i for one wonder why the captain has not been awarded some sort of recognition for what he did that day and would oush for something for them but wouldn't know where to start...

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