Emirates Airline President Tim Clark remains skeptical about the Airbus A350's operating performance, and is particularly leery about the A350-1000.
Clark has previously said that, according to the airline's calculations, the -1000 needs a 105,000 lb. thrust engine to truly leapfrog the Boeing 777-300ER, which means a new fan and significant wing pylon and undercarriage modifications (ATW, Aug. 1). In an interview last week in Vienna, he told ATW that the A350-900, which will be deployed on 85% of the routes EK plans to utilize the A350, "will be a fine aircraft."
But he does not shy away from expressing his displeasure with the A350-1000 performance parameters outlined by Airbus at the Paris Air Show in June, when it was revealed that Rolls-Royce is developing a higher thrust variant of the Trent XWB engine that will power the aircraft (ATW Daily News, June 21). "In our view, the aircraft is heavy and to deal with the extra weight, you've got increase the thrust," he elaborated. "We believe that the specific fuel consumption gain Rolls-Royce says the [-1000 will] have will be lost because of the extra weight."
EK has 50 A350-900s and 20 -1000s on order, but Clark is concerned that the -1000 won't meet the airline's needs. EK has not decided if it will still take delivery of the aircraft or perhaps convert its A350-1000 orders to -900s—or, worse from Airbus's perspective, cancel the orders in favor of a potential next generation Boeing 777-300ER.
"I told Airbus I really want to see the aircraft flying," Clark said. "Let's certify the A350-900 and then we'll decide what we are going to do. [Airbus] still has to do work on [the -1000]."
Though he is more satisfied with the A350-900, Clark noted the aircraft is heavy as well. But he said, "I think it will be okay. The aircraft will replace all of our A330s, 777-200s and A340s. The only [concern] on the -900 is that it gives us just 274 seats in a three-class configuration. It will be too small. We need 340 seats."
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Just use more 777-300's or
By dbaJust use more 777-300's or 747-8's.
Looks like Clark might be
By AnonymousLooks like Clark might be interested in a potential B787-10X.
If the 900 is to small (274
By AnonymousIf the 900 is to small (274 seats - needs 340) why buy 50? Sounds like the 1000 is the size they really need
Those 777-300ER's are looking
By AnonymousThose 777-300ER's are looking better and better every day. Airplanes that can turn a profit are just cool...
.......If the 900 is to small
By kapo.......If the 900 is to small (274 seats - needs 340) why buy 50? Sounds like the 1000 is the size they really need
EK does not operate 3 class cabins on all aircraft, the reason why they have 50 on order is that they will be used as 333/343/772 replacements with 2 class cabin. 345,77L are mission critical aircraft that do not fit into the spec profile of A350-900.
I see major western carriers
By AnonymousI see major western carriers ordering significant numbers of a350-1000s in the next 3-4 yrs. With or without Emirates.
They do need bigger airplanes
By AnonymousThey do need bigger airplanes but they have to buy airbus airplanes to please Europe.
Playing the manufacturers one
By RichardPlaying the manufacturers one against the other I think. If you look at it, EK has always seemingly turned to Airbus though insiders were sometimes horrified at the performance figures, e.g. of the A300 versus the B767-300ER.
They will take whichever option benefits them most financially, a sweetened pot.
"Looks like Clark might be
By Anonymous"Looks like Clark might be interested in a potential B787-10X"
Nonsense, the 787-10 is nowhere as big as the A350-1000.
In the beginning of the
By AnonymousIn the beginning of the composite program for the Boeing 787, Steven Udvar Hazy discovered Airbus was using A330 specs for the A350 composite program competing with the 787. Airbus then went back to the drawing board. Now rolling out A350 performance parameters competing with 777. It makes one wonder of Airbus's reputation. Thanks to Steven Udvar Hazy.
Well, that'd be right, except
By AnonymousWell, that'd be right, except that the potential 787-10 will not be as big as the A350-1000. So that rules it out except Boeing goes for a 787-11, which makes no sense. So Clark's only options are to ... accepti that the A350-1000 won't be as capable as his 773ERs but will be more efficient, so he'll have to sacrifice payload or just order more 77Ws and/or wait for whatever Boeing is doing with the planned 777NG. Airbus cannot and should not tailor their demands to meet one customer who needs a pure 777 replacement when it might not be what other customers want.
Airbus should go for a
By RickAirbus should go for a derated GE-90X engine on the 350-1000 and forget about RR.
Boeing has a preferential
By AnonymousBoeing has a preferential deal with General Electric so that the GE90-110B1 engine is exclusively offered for Boeing aircraft.
Airbus and RR have a better corporate partnership, as say, Airbus and GE, and thus have opted to develop their 'own' engine for the a350-1000 program.
Clark seems to be asking a
By LediardClark seems to be asking a bit much. He wanted more power for the 1000 - so he got it. Now he's complaining because he can't stick the bits of the 1000 onto his 900 and 800 toys. ...
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